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and people will not be allowed to go back in there. but just a short while ago, all of the materials that needed to be removed, the explosive and danger ousz dangerous materials have been removed. so the heavy presence with all the bomb technicians and all of those sorts of people have now left the sooeb. and what was described inside that apartment was extremely eerie. he says he left behind in his apartment a very sophisticated trap left to injure if not kill someone. and they're not happy about it, either. >> make no mistake. this apartment was designed, i say, based on everything i've seen, to kill whoever entered it. and who was most likely to enter that? it was going to be a police officer. so make no mistake about it.
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what was going on there. and if you think we're angry, we sure are angry. >> now, they talked about there was a trip wire along the door to the apartment that if anyone opened that door and triggered that wire, that would have triggered a large explosion that could have been deadly. terrifying to think for the neighbor who lives below james holmes in that apartment. some of my colleagues spoke with the person who lives right below him and said at some point, the night before, all of that loud music, that she had actually gone in there and opened up the door. so imagine just how much worse this could have been had that happened. those authorities have been nearly 36 hours cleaning out that apartment. >> just think if the suspect had made some sort of miss take when
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he was having the stuff delivered and putting it together. and large, i mean large volumes of delivers we were told by law enforcement over the last couple of months, ed. why? >> and this is one of the things that the police chief talked about. they shared a little bit of this yesterday. the work that had been done over the last few months. we learned from law enforcement officials, that the guns were purchased in several area gun stores here in the denver area. during the last three months, there was a great deal of ammunition. some say 6,000 rounds that james holmes purchased a and had delivered to him. they say that what that shows is a great deal of dlib rative process, planning out this attack and, obviously, authorities putting that out there because they're trying to anticipate what his defensz attorney night be saying. and if they go for a defense of sanity or some sort of mental
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condition, authorities here want to be able to show just how well thought out and how planned this attack was. >> all right, ed, standby. i want some of us to imagine living in that area where james holmes lived. that boobie-trapped apartment and not being able to go back to your home and not knowing the postblety of an explosion. >> we don't know when we can go home. they say it could be tonight. it could be another couple days. >> forced to evacuate paul mcqueen is shaken. his children, terrified. for those who live here forced to leave their home, it has been a day full of angst.
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>> we need the area safe. the most immediate threat is the trip wire. >> two hours later, progress. >> we have been successful in deleting the first threat. >> but, also, this. this trip wire was set up to clearly detonate when someone entered the apartment. >> caitlin says she lives below the suspected shooter. show heard loud techno music. went upstairs to confront him, foupd t fou found the door unloxed. >> that dwis was meant to kill. >> a little before noon sard, firemen shout fire in the hole and then this. >> we have been successful in
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detonating the trigger device. however, there are many hazards that remain inside this apartment. >> and much on ease for the evacuated families. >> what has this been like for you as a mother. >> it's been a really horrible. it easter fiing because i'm a mother of four schirn and just knowing that what happened in the theater, the families, the loved ones. >> come to find out he's right next to us. you know? it's kind of hard. but if he would have just came out and didn't have to start shooting kids. >> i didn't know if they were going to be okay. or if that place was going to blow up. it was just really scary. >> for now, that risk not eliminated at least in the f.b.i.'s words, significant bly
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reduce ds. >> amid this tragedy, we are learning about some major stories of survival. kor ban saw the whole thing happen along with his friend jennifer, i spoke to last night here on cnn. he joins us now. >> i'm doing a lot better today as opposed to the night that it happen. i'm glad to talk to people to let them know i'm going through the same thing. >> we've heard over and over from a flum bnumber of dimpbt p. i have to ask you, i didn't ask anybody last night and yesterday when i was here. what is it like being here with that building so cloesz. when i look at that building, i have a blank feeling inside. i try not to think of the event. >> you said that you don't even
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like to look at -- >> you don't want to look over at it. >> i will look other. it will give me a very uncomfortable feeling. >> jennifer said that the gunman that got really close to her and then shot behind her. you were right next to her. so what happened to you? why didn't you get shot? the gunman came into the auditorium and a toxic gasz went off. i immediately went to the ground. and, instead, we stood there and stayed there for about a dead ten seconds before we decided that we needed to crawl to the ooir side. >> until this day, i still don't know. you never know when your number is up. >> yeah. >> are you all right? >> yeah.
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>> i'm sure your family is glad to have you back. what do you say to the people around the world who are watching this and thinkingmy gosh, colorado, what's going on. what do you say about it to the country and toet world. >> well, for the countries of the world, i would say under circumstances, things could happen at any time. so while you're still here, try to make the most that you can with your family, your friends, colleagues, people that you probably had bad house relationships with because you don't want to lee knowing that ewe didn't say something. >> take care of yourself. tell jennifer we said hello. >> up next is one of mini heroes of this shooting. comes face to face with the shooter in the process. he joinls me and this. >> he's the whole reason we all went.
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a.j. was a student at gateway high school in awe ror ra, colorado. he liked lacrosse. he survived a barrage of bullets from suspect james holmes. but a.j. did not. he die nd the theater. >> we just talked with a witness who survive nd the theater just behind me here. i'm joined by eric hunter. he was watching the batman movie next door in theater eight. the horror happened in theater nine. you came face-to-face with the gunman. what was your reaction? some people thought he was part of the promotion for the movie. >> right. when it first happened, we thought they were fire crackers or something. we thought it was the movie-goings experience. >> when i happened, we seen some
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commotion and some people staggering out. we thought it was the attention of the theater. at that point, we heard nine more shots and we seen it come through. that's why we tried to find a way out. >> we see it pretty much covered, but you could see his eyes or maybe his mouth. did you see any expression? did you look into his eyes? >> when i did get a glimpse of him, i did see his eyes, but i couldn't see anything else. >> did he ever come over to the other theater, or is it just one? >> no, it was just nine. with us, i think he was going to try to enter the theater after seeing the girls were over there. >> how are you feeling being back here at this theater? >> it's just emotionally happy that you're alive. but then, again, you're sad. you know certain people died.
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you know children died. e you wish, you know, why not me? >> we've been talking a lot about the suspect in this. and many people are say i don't want to hear so much about the suspect. i want to hear about the survivors and their victims and their families. do you feel that way? are you angry with limb and dhi it upset you to talk about him? >> it doesn't unspset me to tal about him. but i'm mad with what he did. we have to talk about him. i understand where they're konling from. >> it's changed your life? >> i'm going to be more cautious. i'm going to live my life a little bit, you know, just better and just enjoy myself. >> all right. eric, thank you very much. we appreciate it. good luck to you, okay? >> thank you, sir. >> thank you very much. um next, she served a tour on iraq only to be shot in a movie theter. angd i talked to her about the shooting in auroa.
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the first known victim at the auroa, colorado jessica moved from texas to auroa within the last year to chase her dream. last month, she survived a mall shooting in toronto while visiting her boyfriend. according to witnesses, she died from a gunshot wound to the head. >> a good friend of alex sullivan, christina blanch is another victim. she was with alex at this theater at mid night. and she survived. and earlier, she talked as she recovered in her hospital bed. here's what she had to say.
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>> a day or so ago, you were normal life, manager at a restaurant and then this. >> yeah. you can't ever expect it. you're always the person that says oh, that will never happen to me. when it goes on, i dpnt know it was going on for the first three minutes that it happened. i thought it was like movie theater antics. when there's midnight movie premiers, they try to put people in the shows. i honestly thought that might be what was going on. it was in the middle of a movie scene when they're fighting. and when the thing was thrown, you could literally count to five and then this, like, bomb went off. thafts e that was like two things in front of me. like two rows. and then you heard pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. just gunfire. that's when it hit me, oh, my god, this is actually happening. so that's when i went to go to
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the floor. >> some people were like oh my god, i've been hit and then i started to run. >> they were like get out of the theater. certain people were falling down. whether they were hit or not, i don't know. and then the next thing you know, you're hearing everybody, okay my god, help me. there was blood everywhere. so it kind of clicks once you see that much blood and people not moving. and then my friend, that was sitting next to me, he was face down coming next to me. i didn't get an update until this morning about whether he made it or not. >> your friend, alex? >> alex sullivan. yeah. >> what did you learn? this morning? >> i learned that he died.
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>> hard to fathom. >> he's the whole reasonable we all went. so it just sucks, you know. nobody deserves something like this. >> you were in a war zone. like, you were in baghdad. whooi is this worse than being in a war zone? >> they just weren't -- nobody saw this coming, you know. nobody that was there saw it coming. nobody was prepared for it. if you're going over to a war zone, you know there's the potential that you're going to be shot at. potential that somebody is going to throw a grenade at you. if you're sitting in a mule vov theater, who expects to be shot? none of us did. >> can you forgive them? >> can i forgive them? probably not today. not tomorrow. eventually.
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i'm a pretty i guess laid back and kind of out going person. i like to move on. i don't like to keep dwelling on the past. so eventually, yeah. he killed somebody i cared about and injured a heck of a lot of friends. so for right now, no. down the road, yeah. >> my thanks to christina blanche. on the left, there's the front page from puerto rico. translated, it says night of terror in colorado. on the right, india. the headline. vampire at bat night. and, next, the investigation into james holmes explaining his axzs by looking into his paes. [ male announcer ] this is anna, her long day teaching the perfect swing
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matt mcquinn's family agonized for hours before they found out he was killed. he was at the movie with his girlfriend and her brother. witnesses say he died while
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trying to shield his girlfriend from the barrage of bullets from suspected gunman, james holmes. to make matters most, the hospital woumdn't confirm his condition to her because she was not related. >> all right. we're going to get some new video. this is just in to cnn. w we heard earlier that all of that material had been removed. you can see police disposing of the material they found inside of that apartment blowing some of it up. they said that the one insind yar device was said to be naypalm and other substances, as well. all of that material they removed, it is being disposed of. we'll continue on this story and
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follow up if we get more information and more pictures on this. in the meantime, our invest gative kcorrespondent joins me and he's been looking into the background of this theater-shooting suspect, james holmes. drew, when you're looking into this and when you hear about these explosive materials, this doesn't surprise you considering what you have found? >> actually, it really only deepens the mystery. late this afternoon, a university of official at the school where he was withdrawing said this guy, james holmes gave no reason as to why he was leaving the school and withdrawing. not in writing. not verbally to anyone. we also know that the police record did do a police search and james holmes' name did not come up at all. earlier today, we were at the building where he studied, where
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he worked at the lab. we do know that the police did a dog sweep of those buildings. today, the campuses were closed. it looked more precautionary than anything else. one student said i was beside him for three months rast summer. and he said i couldn't say i was close to him. i couldn't say anyone was close to him. and we're not finding anyone in this town that gives any indication as to why this happened. >> he had been living not far from this movie theater for the past year because it was also close to the university of colorado med cool school. according to the school, he was in the process of withdrawing as a student last month. we do know he did give a student lecture this past march on
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something called micro rna biomarkers. it's about the study of nerves that relate to cancer research. and the school says holmes worked in a paid position there, as well. but no details. before that, it was a middle class upbringing in california. high school in san diego, an undergraduate degree in riverside in 2010. school administrators there said he had an outstanding academic record. so how is this honor student, this ph.d. candidate becoming a completely different person? dressed, and according to police, armed to kill. >> the suspect was dressed all in black. he was wearing a blis kl helmet and black, tactical gloves. >> was the person delusional?
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was there mental illness involved? i want to share with you what ray kelly released that may have a tie to the actual movie. >> we have some information. most of it is public. clearly looked like a deranged individual. he had his hair painted red. he said he was the joker. >> we're finding no evidence from friends, from teachers, from the university officials that said what would lead to that behavior. i think the fact that they were able to take that apartment without blowing anything up inside. there miegt ght be clues there. but, really, this guy was a ghost in this tounl. we told you about all of the material. investigators are on the scene now. we saw them circling around the building and bringing things out. so again, the mystery continues.
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>> james holmes' life. we'll learn more about his family, his upbringing, and even his time as a camp counselor for underprivileged children. that's ahead. here's the scene in washington. all flags orrered to be lowered until sun set on wednesday. next, the gunfire. the chaos and the police scanner traffic as the tragedy unfolded. ♪ [ slap! ] [ slap! slap! slap! slap! ] [ male announcer ] your favorite foods fighting you? fight back fast with tums. calcium rich tums goes to work in seconds. nothing works faster. ♪ tum tum tum tum tums i bought the car because of its efficiency. i bought the car because i could eliminate gas from my budget. i don't spend money on gasoline.
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alex sullivan worked at the century 16 theater in auroa and planned to ring in his 27th berth day with a special screening of "dark knight
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rises." he was funny, witty, smart and a big heart. the horror of that night is almost unimaginable. starting out, the thrill of being the biggest movie of the year. as anderson cooper explains, it's confusion and then a fight for survival. >> it's about 12:30 a.m., 20 minutes or so into the premier of "the dark knight rises." a gas mask and a san sister of what may have been tear gasz into the room of the exit door. the canister ignites. >> when this popping started happening, i thought it was fireworks or fire krcrackers an someone playing a prank.
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>> witnesses say the gunman enters the theater, first fires at the ceiling and then turns his gun on the crowd. >> when he went straight from the air, he came down with his gun in my face. he was about three feet away from me. >> somehow, i've got my little sister. i grabbed everything and just went down on the ground, hiding below, like, the chairs. and the guy is standing right by the exit. just firing away. he's not aiming at a specific person. he's just aiming everywhere. trying to hit as many people as he can. i remember i was down on the ground and covering myself right when i was going out trying to see the guy with the tear gas getting me. my eyes were watery. i was crying and my throat felt weird. i kept on going down, like ducking down and telling my sister to go for it.
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the shooting probably lasted a minute or two min uts. >> children are shot. this mother is wounded in the leg as she tries to escape the gunfire with her four-month-old son and four-year-old daughter. >> i just grabbed my daughter and got her out as fast as i could and just ran out. i didn't turn around. i didn't look behind me. there was a moment where my daughter came in and i just pulled her up and i was just thinking you've just got to get out. i've just got to get out the door. even if i just fall dead, just get my kids out of here. it was just so horrible. >> at 12:39 a.m., the first calls came in. >> police arrive within 90
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seconds to soon learn that 71 people have been wounded. inside, 10 people are dead. >> the det toll stands at 12. at least 26 people are still in the hospital. if you want to learn more about victims of the colorado shooting, post messages to their loved ones, you can do so by logging onto our web site. go to cnn.com/coloradovictims. >> in some cases, there are tales of incredible sacrifice. >> i was just in so much pain and agony.
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serviceman was in his first posting. in a phone call with cnn, his father, scott, said they're struggling with the news that he was shoot and killed with the movie theater. they say his thoughts and prayers are with the victims. >> many who survived the rampage feel lucky for dodging death. cnn has the story of one man who didn't think twice before trying to save his friends. >> my mind is completely clear of what's going on. guys, here's a gun. he's shooting at people. stay down. it's the best chance we have. >> the second thought for josh nolan? protect his friends. the navy veteran deployed to iraq twice. dozens of bulletins flew throug the air. >> i just see this big hole in my leg and big hole in my arm.
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>> nolan says he flattened himself on the theater floor with his friends beneath them. hearing the gunman walk and wait. he must survive for his two sons, he says, whose pictures he carries in his wall et. and then the gun jammed. >> if that gun had not jammed, you'd be here. >> i know i wouldn't be here. if that gun did not jam, i am full certain i probably would not be here. >> how are you feeling today. >> >> i am thankful i am alive and i get to see my kids. i also think about the other people that are not as lucky as i was. there was mothers and fathers
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that were there and they're dead and i'm still alive. >> the number of people who threw themselves on top of friends and family members to shield them from the flying bullets. >> brandy and denise are two of the best people that you would ever get to meet. >> is that why you jumped on top of them? >> i did. they had every right to live. they just got married. >> it's no longer a friendship. it's not even family. it's like something deeper. >> this is something that will never leave. >> his friends won't leave his side now.
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as soon as he can, nolan has only one thing he says he must do for his emotional recovery. >> i won't go back into that theater. i won't go back into that auditorium. i'm going to look at that same seat and say i beat you. you d not take this life. >> boy, oh boy. any idea when he's going to get out of the hospital? what an emotional interview, too. he says he does have a better road ahead. >> what about his military training? >> he did say that sense of friendship, it really did come into play. >> you're sayinge doesn't want people to feel sorry or sad or anything? >> no, he wants people to remember what happened here is terrible. >> for him, i mean. >> yeah, but what he wants is
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23-year-old mckala was one of the victims. medek is sdriebed as an independent woman who is great fun. >> and one of the mysteries surrounding the movie massacres are on the alleged shooter himself. dan simon went to his hometown to find out. >> he remembered, david casper owns a san diego pawnshop and recalls looking at some guns a few months ago. to finds out that he had used
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firearms and he had been in here using firearms is a little bit unsettling. >> a few miles away, a portrait is e merjing. >> obviously rksz he had the intellectual capacity to be successful in anything he wanted to do. >> out of the 21,000 students, holmes was among the very brightest. according to the school's chancellor. he admitted he graduated in 2010 with a degree in neuroscience. >> it is one of our most rigorous majors. a whole host of allied health air yas. >> holmes appear today come from a stable area. his father, seen here, understandably stressed, is
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employed at a software company. >> they are working with, communicating with authorities and that's really all we can say. >> it's a quiet neighborhood. it's a neighborhood that people moved to because the school district is one of the top school districts in the that nation. >> at this point, we haven't discovered anything that points to a troubled individual. he was responsible for the care and guidance of approximately 10 kids. we're told there was no incidents and nothing happened out of the ordinary. >> the people of auroa colorado
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the death of 12 people in auroa on the mind of ail americans tonight. here, in auroa, individuals like this one, they're being held all across the city. residents searching for an
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answer to why this tragedy had to happen here. in much the same way that they did 13 jeers ago. this is an area that understands better than most. how to respond to these types of tragedies. a place where people have a remarkable ability to support one another in times of crisis. this is certainly one of those times. i want to tell you something that we have here into cnn. we are learning that the white house is announcing just moments ago that president barack obama will come to aurora, colorado. the president will be here tomorrow. cnn just learning that from the white house. i want to take a moment to look ahead at what the people will look at in the coming days. the people of this city will certainly take their grief to their churches and houses of worship.
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and then the most agonizing funerals and burials of 12 people killed in that movie theater. one of them is a 6-year-old girl. and then there are the people who live here. in this apartment building. the former home of james holmes where police found a pile of explosives rigged to explode. what a frightening thing to learn. that the apartment next door contained a bomb and an arsenal. and then one final noet, james holmes is set to face a judge on monday. that's when the wleels of justice will start to turn for him. we might find out when he faces a judge, when he goes to that hearing, exactly what happened. may believe he'll say something. we don't know. but, in the meantime, as e eve been saying throughout this broadcast, the world is watching. people are praying. our thoughts and prayers are with the folks here.
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of course, we're not going to leave until we deem it's necessary. we want to continue to cover this important story. this is the largest mass shooting in u.s. history. it may be a black eye for this community. they may feel that at this moemt. but not really. we love you guys here and we are praying for you. and, again, we are going to be here until we decide that this story no longer warnts that. by, anyway, i'll see you back here an hour from here at 10:00 p.m. eastern. >> tonight, inside the supreme circuit court, a rare and exclusive interview with the longest serving justice. >> you have to read the federalist papers. i don't think anybody in the current congress could write even one of those numbers. >> colorful, controversial and powerful. he has changed a nation. and now what you've got are the
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